Thursday, February 15, 2007

You marry my daughter and I'll marry yours!


Thursday, February 15, 2007
?You Marry My Daughter and I?ll Marry Yours!?
so presenting one and only, 'You Marry My Daughter and I'll Marry Yours!' culture, imported right from the 6th centrury into 21 century.
RIYADH, 7 January 2007 ? With the aim of strengthening business ties, two Riyadh business partners in their 70s have married their teenage daughters (17-19) to each other[ed... dont forget to note the ages], reported Sayidaty magazine, a sister publication of Arab News.
"A man has the right to marry[ed... yes, and a womes? or are there gay marriage ceremonies too,perhaps yes ...]. When it comes to marriage, there is no stopping point," said Al-Dossary, a man in his 70s with silver hair, a gray beard and gray eyebrows. "We have followed Islamic principles in the way we conducted our marriages and we are both happy with our wives," he added.
Al-Dossary married his teenage daughter to his business partner and in turn married his partner's teenage daughter. His partner, Saif Al-Qahtani, said: "It is true that our arranged marriages are strange, yet this does not mean that we are the only people to have married in this way[seems like a tradition, after all Muhammad himself demanded, and got, six-year-old Aisha from his best friend Abu Bakr; why not they? ], either in the past or the present. Anyhow, the main purpose of marriage is to protect men and women[do u think you are protecting her by throwing her next to a old man] and we have both achieved this through our marriages."
He added: "It took us only two months to decide and then arrange our marriages. It all began when my friend, Al-Dossary, continuously expressed the desire to marry."
Al-Dossary added: "It is true that I wanted to marry. I proposed to several girls but all refused. One day I decided to ask Al-Qahtani to give me one of his daughters. He agreed immediately, but in return he asked me for my daughter[so both were maintaing a eye on each others daughther]. I was surprised because he already had three wives; however, I agreed since I had a young daughter who was of marriageable age.[17 is not old, anyways what is marriagebale age then in islam?]"
Al-Qahtani commented: "Yes, I asked him to give me his daughter in return. When he asked for one of my daughters, I thought I couldn't refuse him because of our friendship[Oye Bale Bale, Yaari hai iman mera yaar meri Jindgi, but why a exchage then ?]. I knew that if I did refuse his request, our business would be affected[so he make a buisness deal, or better say sold.]. I didn't have any other choice. I agreed to give him my daughter and take his daughter in return[simple mathematics]. At the time, I remember telling him to give me his daughter and that I would give him mine."
He added that the two old men then set a date, not more than two months away during which time the marriages would be finalized. "We met our deadline and we have now been married for a year and a half," he said.
When asked if they had consulted their daughters, Al-Qahtani said: "I did not ask my daughter. I don't have to. I know what is beneficial for her[and we know what's good for 2 virgin hungry old mens]. When I told her what I had planned, she was happy. If she hadn't been, she would have told her mother.[mummy mummy, ask papa to make a deal with some other person, or should she ask.. mummy, do you like your new virgin new sister?]"
Al-Dossary said: "In bedouin culture, a girl does not have the right to express her opinion about marriage[at least truthful, dont plays taqiyya card], especially if her father and brothers[Oh was he also involved, as you said "AND". does he also has some share in his fathers new wife? ] have decided on a particular man. In both our cases, we have been married for a long time and have had no problems with our wives. Although we are much older than our wives, the fact that we are together proves that we are right for each other."
He added: "Saudi girls, especially bedouins, prefer to marry old men[oh thats preety new. Muneer are you also a old thug.. then get the oppurtunity]. This is what my third and fourth wives have both told me[smart and polite way to say, my partner is a old a*shole]. They keep telling me they are glad that they did not marry young men.[new trend, never know that... i thought other way round]"
As for the wedding ceremony, Al-Dossary said: "Indeed, we had a wedding ceremony. We were not stealing, so there was no need to hide things. We had a party for women. However, the men's party was only for me, my brothers, Al-Qahtani, his brothers and the marriage official[do all of them had some shares in new virgins... disgusting is brothers involved in this sister selling deal]. We provided our wives with huge dowries and valuable gifts[indeed a deal], far more than anything any young men could have given them.[a unsecure future ]"
When asked if they have had children by their young brides, Al-Qahtani said with enthusiasm: "I have already had a daughter and my wife is now pregnant again. Al-Dossary has not had any yet but he has many from previous wives."
Reacting to allegations of misbehavior, Al-Dossary said: "We do not think of our daughters as entities to profit from. If I were of such a mind, then I would have married my daughter to men who asked for her and offered me lots of money; however, I refused them because of their unacceptable manners and behavior.[he said NO to me, i just asked for exchange]"
Al-Qahtani agreed: "To tell you the truth, when I asked Al-Dossary to give me his daughter in return for mine, I had a couple of things in mind. I told him that we were not just friends and partners but we would also be relatives. We did not think of our daughters as business entities.[yes yes a*sholes,we know it was not a deal]"
He added: "Some of my cousins have refused to accept the marriages, not because of the idea but because one of them wanted to marry my daughter[so all fall in same category, culture isnÄ´ it]. However, he couldn't provide the dowry I asked for[but but you dont think a daughter a buisness identity ] and, therefore, I didn't give him my daughter. I have forgotten about him."
When asked if they plan to use this strategy to marry again, Al-Qahtani said: "I cannot marry again as I already have four wives, but no one knows [no one knows trick work always...]what will happen in the future. However, if I were to remarry, I would marry one of my cousins and would have no problem in offering one of my daughters in return[muneer you were saying something about PARAYA MARD, perhaps in islam relatives should also not to be belived on]."
Al-Dossary said: "I am satisfied with my three wives but as Al-Qahtani said, no one knows the future. If I am to marry and the father of the girl or her brother asks me to give him one of my daughters, then I would agree. I would even agree if he asked for one of my granddaughters."
Commenting on the story, Ali Nasir, a social researcher at the Education Ministry, said: "The problems that are currently present in Saudi and Arab society in general are due to easy-going attitudes toward marriages. Although there are rules and laws in some Arab countries that demand respect between men and women, in Saudi Arabia customs and traditions still remain in control. How could two old men treat their daughters as objects? How can they ignore the basic age differences?"
He added that having read a transcript of the men's interviews, he could clearly see that they had no respect for women[we also belive this]. "They did not even consult their daughters. They also said that they were ready to marry again in a similar fashion."
Sheikh Muhammad Al-Wahbi, a researcher in Islamic jurisprudence, said that there was no legal problem with such marriages as long as the women involved agreed[agree means kubul, kubul, kubul isn't it with no right for her to say "Talak talak talak"]. He warned that people must, however, be clear about their intentions. "It is abominable to turn a marriage into a business in which a woman is no more than an object or business commodity," he said.
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Baddie Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:10:53 PM
Islam religon must be count in Seven Wonders of the World ...indeed
Infidel Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:20:33 PM
PM, thanks for the informative post. It's wonderful, specially your sharp comments. Please keep it up, bro.See how the lecherous perverts are ruining lives of younger ones by following their NOBLE PEDO MO.Shame on such blind followers and shame on their pedo prophet.This is really disgusting..I don't think any bigot will comment here, but abuses and curses in other's name may come.
K.Venugopal Friday, February 16, 2007 12:42:28 AM
The couples quoted above are from the Bedouin community. Bedus, as they are popularly known, were the last to catch up on the oil money - that is, to move from camel to Cadillac. The Bedus are looked upon contemptuously by the other communities, at least in the Gulf countries. Though Islam attempts at giving a monolithic image of itself, there are communities upon communities in Islam and all have their own traditions which may not tally with official Islam. Sometimes it is unclear whether some communities have become Islamised or Islam has been tribalised within some communities. Take our NWFP (ours of course, after all it is in the Indian sub-continent, is it not?) where they have honour killings behind Islamic facade. It is actually ancient tribal values at play. The ardent Muslim knows that Islam is far from Islamising its many 'Muslim' communities.

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