Who are the real infidels - Islamists or Non-Muslims

Thursday, November 30, 2006 Who are the real Infidels - Islamists or Non Muslims Citizen Kane , First and foremost None of you Muslim Fanatic Extremist terrorists have any right in saying that all non beleivers are infidels.Even your bloody creator has no business making such statements.Who are you to decide on what religion we need to follow.Are you the only persons entitled to have an opinion.But when u try to defend ur religion why do u guys always try to prove that Islam is the only religion in the world which is peaceful , cares for women and children , is progressive etc.,What is your intention.Surely by now 99 % of the whole world population knows what the religion stands for.Why try to show ur love for the book in such a manner.This hypocracy must end and people like you cannot just blame individuals for the same.It is time to look into the reasons for people all over the world to hate the religion which is backward , regressive , encourages voilence , promotes bigamy , population explosion etc., You CITIZEN Kane claim that u run a school for children mostly Hindus etc.,Why specify all that is it to prove that you a progressive muslim.When the religion is regressive and offers noi scope for any discussion I wonder what u teach. My take on your observations are as follows : 1. Who r these jihadis u talk about? Osama, Hizb, Jaish etc who r they? Who created them? They are not muslims as what they do is against the basic and true teaching of Islam. They were created by thier muslim parents and were financed by muslim businessmen and other islamicts.Why we the ordinary citizens suffer now.It is the easiest thing to disassociate yourself when ever it suits you.Osama and others are born Muslims ( born to muslim parents ) continue to be muslims and will die as Muslims.Just by you or others stating that he is not a muslim does not solve the issue.In the same manner Jews / Christians / Hindus will disassociate themselves from the acts committed by persons of the same religion.You accuse Jews of various acts , can they also use your logic and say that the persons accused are not JEWS.YOU should never forget that 99 % of all MUSLIM terrorists and others who support terrorists listen to what these religious bigots say.These are telecast only in Arabic countries and on Channels which support the cause.So is it not the fact that all viewers who get influenced by these guys are also only MUSLIMS. The problem with muslims is that you are cowards. You are scared to accept the truth and the reality that your religion just like others is FLAWED .You operate with a closed mindset which was in existense in the stone age . You dont want to change in tune with the times.The world does not revolve around ALLAH. It is time Muslims accepted this. 2.The issue of origin of life, amoeba, the big bang theory, and the world being a gaseous mass, all is already stated in the Quran.......Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects Tagut (satan) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, That nevWer breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth . If your creator was such a great guy why did he not reveal the nucleur technology.Why is that Muslims today in various countries STEAL this technology.ALLAH has not mentioned about BOMBS AK 47/56 etc.,but all muslims use them to targer innocent fellow human beingsOnly allah knows everything .Cock and bull story.What about all events likely to happen why did he not predict the Tower Bombings or the iran iraq war or about bush.So what about lesser mortals who are not born to muslim parents.Is it Our fault. So is the solution Conversion .Are only Muslims enttled to call other infidels.Most muslims have several children ???Why has allah not commented on Population exposion,poverty in Muslim families due to multiple children etc.,If that is so your religious leader must also must have stated that rogues and fanatics like osama , Musharaf,syed salauddin,saddam etc.,will exist in the religion and it is the duty of others to kill him and not support him.You can quote selectively from your religious book.Iam sure other books might also contain some other matters which are relevant today.Just because it spoke of these issues earlier ( subject to scrutiny ) your Koran does not become the one and ultimate book in life.By trying to intrepet the evil and bad things mentioned in a different manner you are trying to deflect the issue.The TRUTH and the absolute TRUTH is the Koran also has a long list of disgusting references. 3.Some of the pagans accepted Islam while others were honourably escorted out of the city and were free to practice their own religions and beliefs..............YOUR NARROW RELIGIOUS mindset unfortunately gets exposed here.Who the HELL are you and YOUR CREATOR to label others as pagans.What is your worth in commenting on such a issue. People belong to different faiths by birth and each one entitled to their beliefs.Trying to say that only ONE religion is supreme smacks of arrogance and hypocracy of the worst kind.The fact is that ISLAM is just one of the religions .You cannot bulldoze others to accept your point .You keep ur religious beliefs personal and at home.Trying to influence others in public forum indicates that you are on a weak wicket. I may be a born Hindu but detest and hate any person/organisation which states that only their religion offers salvation or peace or security.I also hate all human beings ( mostly MUSLIMS ) who always say :I have acheived all this Due to ALLAH's grace .99 % of MUSLIM celebreties /stars / sportsmen ( absolutely third rate guys like Aamir Khan / Salman Khan / Shah rukh Khan ) use this dirty word in public. In case u are secular you are supposed to say GOD not ALLAH or JESUS or GANAPATHI or SHIVA etc., F Y I Iam a ATHEIST 10:23:38 AM Posted By ashram a Comments (17) Society Comments Guru Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:39:12 AM Mr ATHIEST.. Can you read other blogs where almost everybody is BASHING ISLAM by quoting Quraan in wrong way. Nobody is trying to influence, this post was the reply of other post. OKAY keep religion at ur home then why the hell people writing against Islam here.. You see the history of BLOGS at NDTV, 90% of religous BLOGS are against ISLAM. Ofcourse Muslim will try to explain the things if others are spreading false information about Quraan and Islam.. K.Venugopal Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:46:51 AM Dear Ashram, Your submissions are very logical and forceful. I fully agree with them. Everyone, theists, atheists and whoever you have, should all have their sacred spaces of belief/disbelief. Live and let live - this aught to be the cardinal principal in social matters. Hinduism, though full of caste discriminations and all that, has the underlying Advaitic vision of total freedom, which is its saving grace as well as maybe the world's. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:04:49 PM For people like you Allah says..Try to show them truth..if they don't listen then say them..Quran Surah Kafirun verse 6“To you be your Way and to me mine. “ ...that is what yesterday you asked me where is it written "Live and let live" in Quran...And yes You were asking me about Koran and Quran...K and Q in Arabic makes lots of diffrence...Anyways if you still wants to keep calling it koran ...never mind...carry on..The more you will spread hatred the more people will come to ISLAM. So please don't stop your work of spreading ISLAM.. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:05:04 PM Mr Infidel,For people like you Allah says..Try to show them truth..if they don't listen then say them..Quran Surah Kafirun verse 6“To you be your Way and to me mine. “ ...that is what yesterday you asked me where is it written "Live and let live" in Quran...And yes You were asking me about Koran and Quran...K and Q in Arabic makes lots of diffrence...Anyways if you still wants to keep calling it koran ...never mind...carry on..The more you will spread hatred the more people will come to ISLAM. So please don't stop your work of spreading ISLAM.. ashram Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:10:41 PM Please reply to the matters reflected here .Dont try to deflect the issue as others do.And for the sake of your creator start using you own names.Posting in the name of Kalpana/guru does not help.Be courageous and act like one.Dont be cowards.Face the truth. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:19:41 PM This is not my fake name this is my real name...KALPANA ...I accepted islam 6 years back...and did not change my original name..This shows i am not a coward..rather u guys are and thats why using name like infidel... krish Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:29:33 PM Converts always try to proove more faithful than the originals.A fake is a fake by whatever name u call. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:03:53 PM Mr ATHEIST or Mr InfidelWith reference to your 1st question...Every religion you will find black sheeps… that doesn't mean they symbolize Your religion..in the same way..you cannot take Osma...etc as an Symbols of Muslims...if one mango is rotten that doesn't mean you will say all mangos are rotten... vijay Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:08:40 PM well!!! actually, we are not refering to one rotten mango here... we are refering to a complete basket of rotten mangoes. a few good ones may still be there however. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:29:03 PM Turn it whatever way you want and try to spread more and more hatred towards ISLAM..Result will be...more and more people coming to ISLAM..Try your level best..and please don't stop your so call spreading hatred...Its indirectly leading people to ISLAM vijay Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:37:13 PM nobody hates islam. there is nothing wrong with islam... the problem is muslims. the only danger islam has in this world is from muslims. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:41:45 PM Believe me brother your under wrong impression..You guys are simply hearing what media says...And helds your opinion based on newspapers..TV...etc..And says its Muslims...Its not muslims...Muslims are more peace loving and humble people...But i do agree upon some people on earth do carry mischiefs...As i said black sheeps are in all religions...And you cannot help it.. vande_Matram Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:15:30 PM Bhaiyya, baaki sab kuchh thik--magar hum bhi pichhle 3 mahine se sasura yeh blogs pe nazar rakhe hue hain. Guru bhaiyya, Kalpana Didi thik farma rahe aur yeh baat hamaare bheje mein nahin ghusat ki 90% bloggers kaahe anti-islaam hai. Saura sab jagah yehi charcha wa--sab ka sab islam ko hi blame kar raha AATANKBAAD ke liye. KAHE BHAI ? Woh gaana suna hai na---"Dhapli waleeeee--- dhapli baja--Mere Ghungroo---" Nahin toh bhaiyya Jaiho--jaiho--jaiho--KALPANA DIDI ki--naam nahin badla--Toh kya badla? Guru Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:13:20 PM OYE BEY ASHRAM...I m not hiding my identity....I already told I M MUSLIM.. ALHAMDO LILLAH.. ALLAH KA KARAM HAI KI MAI MUSLIM HOO.. Kalpana Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:20:55 PM GURUStay cool brother , Do u need to tell them ur Muslim...Do u need to give any explanation of What u are..Just ignore this kind of claims...and cotinue only on topics which u feel is important for them to know.. perfektm Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:52:05 PM Kalpana,In childhood, i had seen Arabic nights... and Muslim around in my city also had placed a Fuss in public .. that Islam is Religion of Peace...we all know Advertisement works.. as a child, i thought perhaps nice babes, free life and enjoyment, belly dance and peaceful evening around camping fire... this is islamic tradition.... was definately too nice!! it has attracted me to, to find a bit more of the Islamic camp.. & belly dance culture... but what i find out is,belly dance was human discrimination from people taken into slavery, there was nothing like open minded girls or any such concept, which were free to celebrate and dance across camping fire. it was all ugly thrust of Sheiks... which are also drinking from hyderabadi bowl....there is no peace, instead you will find belly dancing on a rope... as Muslim cut and hand them.....really Nice Swing, nice dance, nice peace as well as Extremely nice Submission ... calpings for kalpana thanks for your contribution in Al taqiyya.... we are thankful for your act... kalpana... don't make kalpana, come in real world-- psycho Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:17:11 PM u showed ur true colours man...A SEX PERVERT....maybe ask the ladies in ur family to have a belly dance and put that clip on the blogs so that everyone can enjoy!